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Jesuit Trained Former CIA Agent Questioned About Allegiance
To Vatican First and U.S. Second
Jesuit Trained Former CIA Agent Questioned About Allegiance To Vatican First and U.S. Second
Outspoken Bush war critic Ray McGovern has taken up sides against the Jewish Lobby but won't utter a peep about
Vatican-led NWO, according to Bible believing Christian, Tom Richards
By Greg Szymanski, JD
Jan. 14, 2008
Once a CIA agent always a CIA agent should be the tag placed on Ray McGovern, a former CIA agent and
outspoken critic of the Bush administration and Jewish lobby on Capitol Hill, according to Thomas Richards of
McGovern has been a longtime outspoken critic of what he calls "the illegal Iraqi War," but Richards
says the Jesuit Fordham and Georgetown trained former CIA analyst will not say one bad word about the Vatican-led New World Order.
According to Richards and other outspoken critics, the time has come to expose and call-out people like McGovern who fail to make the
Vatican connection to the NWO while instead figure pointing at the Jews as America's main enemy.
"In fairness to McGovern, I will ask him to come on my radio show to answer these Vatican-related questions, knowing he is Fordham
trained with one of the big players in the Vatican-led NWO and Illuminati, Avery Cardinal Dulles," said Greg
Szymanski of The Investigative Journal radio show. "If he doesn't come on or fails to talk openly about Vatican
improprieties, especially in regards to some federal law suits going on now, you can assume something is rotten in Denmark."
In past years, McGovern has appeared on The Investigative Journal, but was not asked about the Vatican, his interview being limited to
the evils of the Bush administration and especially the revelations of the infamous Downing Street Memo, revealing high-level officials
had fixed an Iraqi war policy after doctoring facts about WMD's.
However, Richards says it's time to look a little deeper into the Vatican roots of the NWO, exposing possible disinformation artists like
McGovern, who appear to be working for the people's interests but really have their initial loyalty to their masters in Rome.
Further, McGovern's connection to the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington D.C., spreading unification with who Bible
believers call the anti-christ in the Vatican, may be another clue to his allegiance to Rome, according to Richards.
Here is Richards commentary on McGovern recently appearing on his anti-Vatican web site:
Ray McGovern anti-Jewish antagonist.
McGovern, another "Blame the Jews" dis-information specialist, and takes the position of "good cop"
in the "good cop, bad cop" trick, and another classic example of a wolf in sheep's clothing inside the
Another "Ex" CIA, Jesuit trained, friend of Alex Jones appearing in many headline Alex Jones stories run on infowars.com and
I noticed some key words of McGovern in a video as I was researching on this man and began looking at his comments regarding Jews and
The following was taken from and
article by Ami Isseroff
"The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern,
a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to
war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by
administration "neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that
part of the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding
of Israeli Prime Minister ArielSharon.
"Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation," McGovern said. "The last time I
did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic."
Well no kidding. If you make the sort of remarks about Jews that Hitler made, you just might be considered an anti-Semite.
Waddayaknow about that?
Even more interesting is what and who prompted McGovern's brilliant analysis:
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked
McGovern for his "candid answer."
Moran should be familiar to you from his previous comments. The last time he expressed his opinionsabout the the Jewish people,
"If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be
doing this...The leaders of the
community are influential enough
that they could change the
where this is going, and I think
There is really not much to
choose between the stereotype of
(or Zionist) "neocons" who
support the Iraq war, and the
the Jewish (or Zionist)
Bolsheviks. Neither assertion is
the facts. The overwhelming
majority of US Jews (75- 80%)
voted for Al
Gore and John Kerry and are not
Republicans. Moran's remarks
adopted by anti-Semites as well
as anti-Zionists as "proof" that
Jews" are behind the Iraq war.
Moran later apologized and said:
"I should not have singled out
the Jewish community and regret
any impression that its members
are somehow responsible for the
of action being pursued by the
administration, or are somehow
Notice this Rep. James P. Moran
Jr. (D-Va.), states, "If it were
the strong support of the Jewish
community for this war with
would not be doing this...."
Pretty interesting he would make
this statement when Catholicism
religion makes up the biggest
percentage of Congress by far.
2005-2006 (109th Congress the
statistics were Catholics 28.8%
Also notice McGovern doing his
job and playing the same role
like Alex Jones plays in blaming
the "Neo-Cons" and especially VP
and then also the Jewish Lobby.
Comment by Thomas Richards, "I
have seen this time and time
again. It is
nothing new in history. The Jews
are always blamed for the
the world. This is the chief
reason I put my web site
The "blame the Jews" crowd have
hand-full of accusations against
Israel that each one of these
constantly repeat. Interesting
single one of these Jew-Bashers
are promoting Ron Paul for 2008.
these people blame the Jews for
Communism as well. This isn't an
accident. This is a special
group of people who are doing
this and their
agenda has many uses. For one.
People like Alex Jones, Dylan
Corey Rowe and Jason Bermas who
are the biggest voices in the
movement use these Jew Bashers
to lump those exposing the
with. I've heard Jones say it
and I've heard the "Loose
Change" boys say
it with my own ears when
confronted on the historical
fact of the
Vatican being behind Fascism.
When confronted about the
Vatican involvement in 9/11 they
bring up the "Anti-Zionists,
Reptoid shape shifter Agenda
Aliens" with Alex Jones calling
the "Catholics run it all crew"
Worst" and even calling us
"Mental Cases" all the while
how it's not good to divide the
What's interesting is I have put
together a little list of
friends of Alex Jones and their
past Anti-Jewish statements.
Here are a
1. Mel Gibson. Anti-Jewish
Quote: "F*****g Jews... The Jews
responsible for all the wars in
the world." Gibson then asked
deputy, "Are you a Jew?"
2. Hutton Gibson (Mel Gibson's
father). Anti-Jewish Quote:
said that accounts of the
Holocaust were mostly "fiction"
that there were more Jews in
Europe after World War II than
3. Patrick J Buchanan.
Anti-Jewish Quote: When speaking
of Adolf Hitler
he said Hitler was, "an
individual of great courage" and
success was not based on his
extraordinary gifts alone. His
an intuitive sense of the
mushiness, the character flaws,
masquerading as morality that
was in the hearts of the
stood in his path."
Let's up the anti here and make
an even stronger case against
Let's just mention other people
Jones is involved with and a few
surrounding these people.
John DeCamp, Author of the
"Conspiracy of Silence". John
DeCamp is the
Ex Aid of CIA William Colby who
was the one time director of the
was found dead under incredibly
suspicious circumstances. This
Conspiracy of Silence was
actually a huge cover-up of the
of Omaha Nebraska's involvement
in the pedophilia taking place
The judge that heard the case
"forced" John DeCamp to take the
Diocese off the law suit. Even
though it was established that
boys were flown to Washington DC
for degenerate political
parties only one man ended up
being convicted of a crime and
sentenced to serve jail time
(Larry King). Jones was in on
smokescreen and promoted it.
Ted L Gunderson who worked with
DeCamp on this Conspiracy of
is a major source of dis-information
in this country spot lighting
time satan worshippers in this
country as a threat when it is
the Roman Catholic church who
are the true luciferians and
actively teach their followers
that their "works" of performing
pagan rituals will allow them to
enter heaven when they die.
Both of these men promote Alex
Jones and his non catholic [div]
of the Bohemian Grove and Alex
Jones promotes both of these
Alex Jones publicly lauded
Martin Sheen in one of his few
appearances on [CIA] CNN. Martin
Sheen took his name after the
Charismatic Bishop Fulton Sheen
and has had personal audiences
JP II (the same one "PROTESTANT"
Ron Paul praises)
Here's an interesting fact. It
has been shown by great U.S
such as Eric Phelps of
vaticanassassins.org and Bill
Hughes and others
that the sinking of the Titanic
was a "Vatican Job". Who
documentary? None other than
Jesuit Coadjutor Martin Sheen.
Now these same researchers are
putting together the fact that
Vatican was behind 9/11 also.
Now who narrated the documentary
Martin Sheen's son, Charlie
Sheen. Coincidence? I doubt it!
Here are some other links
regarding Jesuit Trained "Ex
CIA" Ray McGovern:
Article and picture on
video url of McGovern saying how
he spoke at a meeting at Jesuit
Short McGovern Bio:
"McGovern was born and raised in
the Bronx. He graduated summa
of Fordham University. A
Graduate", he served in
the US Army from 1962-64 as an
intelligence officer. McGovern
received an M.A. in Russian
Studies from Fordham University,
certificate in Theological
Studies from Georgetown
University and was a
graduate of Harvard Business
School's Advanced Management
Ray McGovern works with Tell the
Word, the publishing arm of the
ecumenical Church of the Saviour
in Washington, DC. He writes and
for the arm of Tell the Word
called “Speaking Truth to