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Jesuit Trained Former CIA Agent Questioned About Allegiance To Vatican First and U.S. Second

Greg Szymanski
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Jesuit Trained Former CIA Agent Questioned About Allegiance To Vatican First and U.S. Second

Outspoken Bush war critic Ray McGovern has taken up sides against the Jewish Lobby but won't utter a peep about Vatican-led NWO, according to Bible believing Christian, Tom Richards

By Greg Szymanski, JD
Jan. 14, 2008

Once a CIA agent always a CIA agent should be the tag placed on Ray McGovern, a former CIA agent and outspoken critic of the Bush administration and Jewish lobby on Capitol Hill, according to Thomas Richards of

McGovern has been a longtime outspoken critic of what he calls "the illegal Iraqi War," but Richards says the Jesuit Fordham and Georgetown trained former CIA analyst will not say one bad word about the Vatican-led New World Order.

According to Richards and other outspoken critics, the time has come to expose and call-out people like McGovern who fail to make the Vatican connection to the NWO while instead figure pointing at the Jews as America's main enemy.

"In fairness to McGovern, I will ask him to come on my radio show to answer these Vatican-related questions, knowing he is Fordham trained with one of the big players in the Vatican-led NWO and Illuminati, Avery Cardinal Dulles," said Greg Szymanski of The Investigative Journal radio show. "If he doesn't come on or fails to talk openly about Vatican improprieties, especially in regards to some federal law suits going on now, you can assume something is rotten in Denmark."

In past years, McGovern has appeared on The Investigative Journal, but was not asked about the Vatican, his interview being limited to the evils of the Bush administration and especially the revelations of the infamous Downing Street Memo, revealing high-level officials had fixed an Iraqi war policy after doctoring facts about WMD's.

However, Richards says it's time to look a little deeper into the Vatican roots of the NWO, exposing possible disinformation artists like McGovern, who appear to be working for the people's interests but really have their initial loyalty to their masters in Rome.

Further, McGovern's connection to the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington D.C., spreading unification with who Bible believers call the anti-christ in the Vatican, may be another clue to his allegiance to Rome, according to Richards.

Here is Richards commentary on McGovern recently appearing on his anti-Vatican web site:

Ray McGovern anti-Jewish antagonist.
McGovern, another "Blame the Jews" dis-information specialist, and takes the position of "good cop" in the "good cop, bad cop" trick, and another classic example of a wolf in sheep's clothing inside the "alternative media".

Another "Ex" CIA, Jesuit trained, friend of Alex Jones appearing in many headline Alex Jones stories run on and

I noticed some key words of McGovern in a video as I was researching on this man and began looking at his comments regarding Jews and Israel.

The following was taken from and article by Ami Isseroff

"The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration "neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister ArielSharon.

"Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation," McGovern said. "The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic."

Well no kidding. If you make the sort of remarks about Jews that Hitler made, you just might be considered an anti-Semite. Waddayaknow about that?

Even more interesting is what and who prompted McGovern's brilliant analysis:

Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his "candid answer."

Moran should be familiar to you from his previous comments. The last time he expressed his opinionsabout the the Jewish people, Moran said:

"If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this...The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should." There is really not much to choose between the stereotype of the Jewish (or Zionist) "neocons" who support the Iraq war, and the stereotype of the Jewish (or Zionist) Bolsheviks. Neither assertion is supported by the facts. The overwhelming majority of US Jews (75- 80%) voted for Al Gore and John Kerry and are not Republicans. Moran's remarks were adopted by anti-Semites as well as anti-Zionists as "proof" that "the Jews" are behind the Iraq war. Moran later apologized and said:

"I should not have singled out the Jewish community and regret giving any impression that its members are somehow responsible for the course of action being pursued by the administration, or are somehow behind an impending war," Notice this Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), states, "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this...."

Pretty interesting he would make this statement when Catholicism as a religion makes up the biggest percentage of Congress by far. In 2005-2006 (109th Congress the statistics were Catholics 28.8% to the Jewish 6.9%)
Also notice McGovern doing his job and playing the same role phonies like Alex Jones plays in blaming the "Neo-Cons" and especially VP Cheney and then also the Jewish Lobby.

Comment by Thomas Richards, "I have seen this time and time again. It is nothing new in history. The Jews are always blamed for the problems in the world. This is the chief reason I put my web site together. The "blame the Jews" crowd have only a hand-full of accusations against Israel that each one of these disinformation specialists constantly repeat. Interesting fact. Every single one of these Jew-Bashers are promoting Ron Paul for 2008. All of these people blame the Jews for Communism as well. This isn't an accident. This is a special group of people who are doing this and their agenda has many uses. For one. People like Alex Jones, Dylan Avery, Corey Rowe and Jason Bermas who are the biggest voices in the 9/11 truth movement use these Jew Bashers to lump those exposing the Vatican in with. I've heard Jones say it and I've heard the "Loose Change" boys say it with my own ears when confronted on the historical fact of the Vatican being behind Fascism.

When confronted about the Vatican involvement in 9/11 they immediately bring up the "Anti-Zionists, Reptoid shape shifter Agenda believers, and Aliens" with Alex Jones calling the "Catholics run it all crew" "The Worst" and even calling us "Mental Cases" all the while lecturing about how it's not good to divide the truth movement.

What's interesting is I have put together a little list of Catholic friends of Alex Jones and their past Anti-Jewish statements. Here are a few:

1. Mel Gibson. Anti-Jewish Quote: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

2. Hutton Gibson (Mel Gibson's father). Anti-Jewish Quote: Hutton Gibson said that accounts of the Holocaust were mostly "fiction" and asserted that there were more Jews in Europe after World War II than before.

3. Patrick J Buchanan. Anti-Jewish Quote: When speaking of Adolf Hitler he said Hitler was, "an individual of great courage" and "Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path."

Let's up the anti here and make an even stronger case against Jones. Let's just mention other people Jones is involved with and a few facts surrounding these people.

John DeCamp, Author of the "Conspiracy of Silence". John DeCamp is the Ex Aid of CIA William Colby who was the one time director of the CIA and was found dead under incredibly suspicious circumstances. This Conspiracy of Silence was actually a huge cover-up of the Arch Diocese of Omaha Nebraska's involvement in the pedophilia taking place there.
The judge that heard the case "forced" John DeCamp to take the Arch Diocese off the law suit. Even though it was established that underaged boys were flown to Washington DC for degenerate political pedophilia parties only one man ended up being convicted of a crime and was sentenced to serve jail time (Larry King). Jones was in on this smokescreen and promoted it.

Ted L Gunderson who worked with DeCamp on this Conspiracy of Silence and is a major source of dis-information in this country spot lighting small time satan worshippers in this country as a threat when it is actually the Roman Catholic church who are the true luciferians and satanists who actively teach their followers that their "works" of performing their pagan rituals will allow them to enter heaven when they die.

Both of these men promote Alex Jones and his non catholic [div] version of the Bohemian Grove and Alex Jones promotes both of these men.

Alex Jones publicly lauded Martin Sheen in one of his few short appearances on [CIA] CNN. Martin Sheen took his name after the Charismatic Bishop Fulton Sheen and has had personal audiences with Pope JP II (the same one "PROTESTANT" Ron Paul praises)

Here's an interesting fact. It has been shown by great U.S historians such as Eric Phelps of and Bill Hughes and others that the sinking of the Titanic was a "Vatican Job". Who narrated the documentary? None other than Jesuit Coadjutor Martin Sheen.

Now these same researchers are putting together the fact that the Vatican was behind 9/11 also. Now who narrated the documentary on 9/11?
Martin Sheen's son, Charlie Sheen. Coincidence? I doubt it!

Here are some other links regarding Jesuit Trained "Ex CIA" Ray McGovern:
Article and picture on

video url of McGovern saying how he spoke at a meeting at Jesuit Georgetown university.

Short McGovern Bio:
"McGovern was born and raised in the Bronx. He graduated summa cum laude of Fordham University. A "Distinguished Military Graduate", he served in the US Army from 1962-64 as an intelligence officer. McGovern also received an M.A. in Russian Studies from Fordham University, a certificate in Theological Studies from Georgetown University and was a graduate of Harvard Business School's Advanced Management Program." Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington, DC. He writes and speaks for the arm of Tell the Word called “Speaking Truth to Power.”


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